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joefrank
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PostSubject: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:26 pm

2/19/2011

Has revolution already started in the USA ? Wisconsin is
getting ugly ! The claim it's going to spread to other states.
My opinion , you never know ? I do believe people in this
country are getting tired of the lies and deceits of the
politicians, now more democrats are resigning next year.
Including an independent and two republicans, I guess they
see the writing on the wall , the public is fed up...


Cheers..Joe....
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PostSubject: Re: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:22 am

Except in Wisconsin, it's not the public who's rebelling, it's government workers! They're angry at the prospect of their rich salaries and benefits being cut. One of the workers quoted in an article I read was a computer lab assistant who makes $21K/year plus full benefits. I think that's awfully generous for someone whose job basically involves keeping paper and toner cartridges stocked. These people don't have a clue.
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PostSubject: Re: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:50 am

Executive salaries have increased 267% in the last ten years while the rest of the economy has been abysmal.

Collier County Florida was going to advertise for a superintendent of schools at a salary of $260,000. The governor of the State of Michigan is foregoing his salary of $159,000 because he's made his millions already and his state is one of the worst in the nation, financially. I remember when the governor of Idaho made $30,000 (1987) and had a four-seater prop plane.

I'd like to know how a school district, one of 67, needs to pay $260,000 to its exec which also bumps up the Assistants, etc. etc.
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PostSubject: Re: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:51 pm

The education situation in Texas is abysmal right now. Our recently re-elected gov. and long time bush bud, Rick Perry, chose not to accept stimulus money, and now he is bemoaning the lack of available funds for our programs. He's cutting education money in droves, and our students' education will suffer for it.

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PostSubject: Re: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:57 pm

Ann,

How odd?
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PostSubject: Re: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:58 pm

The Republican stand is always the same.

Education? Can't fix it by throwing money at it.

Planned Parenthood? Can't fix it by throwing money at it.

Heating subsidies for the poor? Can't fix it by throwing money at it.

Healthcare for millions that need it? Can't fix it by throwing money at it.

Tax cuts for the wealthy, war in Iraq, subsidies to corporations, big oil? Can't fix... wait, yes we can, we can fix these things by throwing money at them. All we have to do is figure out how to screw some more people that really need the money, and then...
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PostSubject: Re: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:58 pm

What was his reason for turning down the stimulus money?
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PostSubject: Re: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:09 pm

E. Don Harpe wrote:
The Republican stand is always the same.

Education? Can't fix it by throwing money at it.

Planned Parenthood? Can't fix it by throwing money at it.

Heating subsidies for the poor? Can't fix it by throwing money at it.

Healthcare for millions that need it? Can't fix it by throwing money at it.

Tax cuts for the wealthy, war in Iraq, subsidies to corporations, big oil? Can't fix... wait, yes we can, we can fix these things by throwing money at them. All we have to do is figure out how to screw some more people that really need the money, and then...


When you are right, you are sooooooooo right
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PostSubject: Re: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:18 pm

E. Don Harpe wrote:
The Republican stand is always the same.

Education? Can't fix it by throwing money at it.

Planned Parenthood? Can't fix it by throwing money at it.

Heating subsidies for the poor? Can't fix it by throwing money at it.

Healthcare for millions that need it? Can't fix it by throwing money at it.

Tax cuts for the wealthy, war in Iraq, subsidies to corporations, big oil? Can't fix... wait, yes we can, we can fix these things by throwing money at them. All we have to do is figure out how to screw some more people that really need the money, and then...


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PostSubject: Re: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:19 pm

LC wrote:
What was his reason for turning down the stimulus money?


He said that it would lead to central government control of education, and that we didn't need it.

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PostSubject: Re: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:24 pm

I've heard of some congresspeople turning down federal monies, their reasoning being that they wanted to stop the practice of grabbing money for states just to grab it; that money should be allocated where needed. I have mixed feelings about that. It's admirable in theory, but will only work if everyone does it. In practice, few will, and why should they? Shouldn't state representatives have their states' interests in mind as opposed to the general country's?

Just saw this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110219/ap_on_re_us/us_broken_budgets_a_warning_ignored

Apparentl unemployement reserves are low. I blame this on the ridiculous extensions that Obama has given the unemployed. It makes them complacent. Maybe they need to do all that work that we're always told we need illegal aliens to do.
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PostSubject: Re: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:38 pm

LC,

The uinemployed are hardly complacent. Some of them will never be employed again.

Why? Age. Don't blame them for living.


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PostSubject: Re: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:40 pm

Not everyone who is unemployed is old. Young people need to move, go back to school, take a job "beneath" them, whatever it takes. Two years of handouts doesn't solve anything, and yes, after a year, it becomes unemployment handout, not insurance.
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PostSubject: Re: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:46 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/business/economy/20older.html
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PostSubject: Re: HAS REVOLUTION STARTED IN USA ? WISCONSIN IS GETTING UGLY !   Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:53 pm

The issue here is union-busting more than it is about government salaries.

The people spoke at the polls. They elected a Republican majority. Now they begin to understand the wisdom in the old saw, "Be careful what you wish for."
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