Nearly two hundred years separated the era of the Templars and the reign of Henry VIII King of England. But it was the work, the beliefs and the religion of the Templars that Thomas Cranmer, the Archbishop of Canterbury destroyed under an edict issued by Henry VIII.

The date was c1530's, and King Henry VIII was deeply involved in an intrigue shrouded scheme to become the supreme head of the Church in England

But here is where history goes wrong, for in the struggle for religious supremacy between Protestant and Catholic denominations, the contemporary Egyptian religion practiced by the Cistercian monastics and their constituencies throughout the UK and on the Continent is ignored.

Yet it was this religion that fostered the hatred held by Henry VIII and Thomas Cranmer, the Archbishop of Canterbury, that led to the destruction of over 800 monasteries throughout England and Wales

It also goes wrong in ignoring the Egyptian ghouls that stared down on all who walked the grounds of the monasteries. These ghouls served as a reminder of the world’s first set of "commandments." Better known as Negative Confessions, they come to us from the "Papyrus of Ani" in the "Book of the Dead."

I have not killed men
I have not robbed
I have not stolen
I have not told lies

Henry VIII had to destroy the (I have not) featured ghouls in order to establish the supremacy of a Christian church and the Biblical (Thou shalt not) commandments!

James
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First CNN , then Crop Circles, Earthquakes, now History--all wrong?

Come on--are you having fun yet?

I thought Moses got the Ten Commandments from God when he was on Mt Sinai.
Henry the VIII was not God.
I know that much.

alice

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I thought Moses got the Ten Commandments from God when he was on Mt Sinai. Henry the VIII was not God.

James) No Henry VIII is not God - but if you'd read before you leap - you’d have seen that Henry VIII had nothing to do with the "have nots." The error is yours! The (have nots) are over 4000 years old and are the ancient equivalent of the commandments

O Far-strider who came forth from Heliopolis, I have done no falsehood.
O Fire-embracer who came forth from Kheraha, I have not robbed.
O Nosey who came forth from Hermopolis, I have not been rapacious.
O Swallower of shades who came forth from the cavern, I have not stolen.
O Dangerous One who came forth from Rosetjau, I have not killed men.
O Double Lion who came forth from the sky, I have not destroyed food-supplies.
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O Accuser who came forth from Wetjenet, I have not transgressed my nature, I have not washed out (the picture of) a god.
O Owner of horns who came forth from Asyut, I have not been voluble in speech.
http://www.philae.nu/akhet/Declaration.html


James
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James wrote:

Henry VIII had to destroy the (I have not) featured ghouls in order to establish the supremacy of a Christian church and the Biblical (Thou shalt not) commandments! James /

Sorry, your writing was unclear to me.

Inasmuch as we cannot communicate, I will leave your thread. Enjoy...

alice)

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Sorry your writing was unclear. Inasmuch as we cannot communicate, I will leave your thread. Enjoy...

James) I hope that readers of your book alice, will make a better effort to understand than you have here!

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Well, James, you learn something new every day. I didn't reallise that you were so old. Only someone with firsthand knowledge can be relied upon to know the truth. It's easy to say that historians lie. Historical documents can be faked, false, inaccurate or downright incorrect.

If you asked members here to write down everything they had read, over the last few days, on the threads on this forum, they could not be relied upon to report accurately.

You can read David Starkey's review of Diarmaid MacCulloch's book, Thomas Cranmer: A Life, here:

http://reformationanglicanism.blogspot.com/2010/11/thomas-cranmer-burning-sincerity-by.html

Shelagh

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Only someone with firsthand knowledge can be relied upon to know the truth.

James) That is the silliest most mis-informed statement I’ve ever heard. How many observers to an event would there be? A hundred?

Whoopee a hundred first hand statements - all of them the truth!

Nonsense

James
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I am back briefly, since 100 first hand statements cannot possibly be true, how can we trust your one, not first hand, account?

alice

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I am back briefly, since 100 first hand statements cannot possibly be true, how can we trust your one not firsthand account?

James) Read the history alice! It is all there, but it's in pieces. Some write of Henry VIII, some on the Egyptian presence in the UK, some on the Catholic Reformation and some on the Protestant. My interest is putting it all together

If you have doubts - please ask nicely - it beats being mean any day of the week

James
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Telling me that I'm silly and misinformed is your way of being nice, James?

This is a ghoul of Egyptian origin - it was carved on the corbel of a Scottish Romanesque church. There are two accompanying phrases from the (4500 year old) ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts that described its purpose

It was these (and the religion they represented) that led to the destruction of the monasteries c1530's

The Utterances read this way :: (an Utterance is like a numbered paragraph).

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Utterance 506 :: I am a living soul with bearded face, who endowed his head with divinity Utterance 366 :: God they praise you lest you be far from them in your name of Sacred Beard

NOTE :: Observe how the head is built into the corbel to portray the image of He "who endowed his head with divinity"

Their ultimate meaning relates to the period when men wore beards as a sign of purity
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alice

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It reminds me of the mother crab

James) It reminds me that you have trouble understanding and you were going to leave the thread - if you intend to stay - why don't you concentrate on what's being offered?

James
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Here's a different interpretation:

http://www.beyond-the-pale.org.uk/zDalmeny.htm