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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Wed May 07, 2008 12:15 am

I only know about the heterosexual side of things, sorry.

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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Wed May 07, 2008 8:30 am

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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Thu May 08, 2008 1:19 pm

Hmmm?

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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Thu May 08, 2008 3:26 pm

Wow.
I was just reading the remarks and wondered how they all fit into "History of Religion."

I'll accept the "Hmmm?" Zada. At least that fits.

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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Thu May 08, 2008 3:51 pm


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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Fri May 09, 2008 9:40 pm

I think you started a very intelligent conversation, Abe. But I shy away from religion and politics simply because they are such touchy subjects.

I was raised Catholic, yet I never believed in a trinity or hell fire. Why? because I was raised by one Catholic and one Jehovah's Witness parent. Yeah! How is that for opposites?

The good part of that is that BOTH my parents were serious Bible students and I became a Bible reader too. I've read it through quite a few times.

As a teenager I decided to explore religion and sought to find my own spiritual path. It led me to study many different religions.

I won't talk about where it took me nor where I am now ... I will say this, however, the more I see of our planet, nature, the sky, and the goodness in people (yeah, I try to focus on the good I see in people instead of the bad ... though THAT is often hard to ignore) I am convinced that we must have a brilliant creator who loves beauty and has an interesting sense of humor.

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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Sat May 10, 2008 6:42 am

Elf,
I think that you have a good handle on things.

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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Sun May 11, 2008 1:40 am

JoElle I like the way that you think. I choose to beleive that the world and people in it are doing their best with what they have and with what they know, for the most part. Our time here on the planet is short, but our footprints are big, and so I want to do the best I can to prepare if for the people who follow after us. Not just for my own kids, but other folks' kids too.
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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Fri May 23, 2008 6:31 am

Abe F. March wrote:
Good points Gordon.


. As you know, the jews don't forgive or forget.



I was born Jewish although after my barmitzvah I could no longer adhere
to the religious aspects like being taught Hebrew by rote like a
parrot, not understanding a single word I was spouting and when the
Cohanim turn their backs on the congregation and you're not supposed to
look at them or hear them, I was the 8 year old who ran up, looked up
at them and said words to the effect of, ''Ere, what you doing?" it
didn't go down too well with the elders anyhoo, perhaps Abe you'd
care to expand on your 'Jews don't forgive or forget!'

Excuse me while I find my horns! Perhaps a word here, as a sprog in a
small seaside town in south west England the natives believed all Jews
had horns, we told them we don't wear them in public!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Fri May 23, 2008 9:33 am

Good point Rick! We do tend to lump people together. In the United States, people from the North (especially New England) regard people from the South as inferior slaveholders and people from the South see the Northerners as elitist, snobbish, and greedy.

There's still a "north and south" divide in the UK. Northerners(south of Scotland) are seen as being lazy, hard-drinking, long-term unemployed, working-class "Geordies" who are all children of former miners. Southerners are referred to as effete, decadent "southern poofters" by comparison.

Forgiveness doesn't come come easy to any of us and the Jews have been persecuted for years -- hence the tag about fogiving and forgetting. It's a myth but ethnic humour reinforces common misconceptions.

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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Fri May 23, 2008 2:37 pm

Shelagh wrote:
Good point Rick! We do tend to lump people together.
In the United States, people from the North (especially New England)
regard people from the South as inferior slaveholders and people from
the South see the Northerners as elitist, snobbish, and greedy.

There's
still a "north and south" divide in the UK. Northerners(south of
Scotland) are seen as being lazy, hard-drinking, long-term unemployed,
working-class "Geordies" who are all children of former miners.
Southerners are referred to as effete, decadent "southern poofters" by
comparison.

Forgiveness doesn't come come easy to any of us
and the Jews have been persecuted for years -- hence the tag about
fogiving and forgetting. It's a myth but ethnic humour reinforces
common misconceptions.


Thanks Shelagh,
in fact in my new book is the story of the bitch and her ex catholic
priest pedophile, who broke our relationship with the words, 'I forgive
him!' it's in the chapter of my memoir entitled: Heart and Soul Death
Break

And My Muse questioned the fact that I was Jewish back on July 23 2005

Lots of names that I do see in my address book
Where the f'muck are they all now? I just took a look
Most I haven't the faintest clue, some I can't remember
It looks like a lonely birthday in this coming December
Home alone, alone at work, it seems it's back to me
And really what I want to do is climb a mountain and scream!
I have got to keep on going and with a smile, no frown
I better take my own advice, don't let the barstewards grind me down!
Bruised and battered, hurt and scarred,betrayed and villified
Lied to, shat on and what's more, they cut me deep inside
Yet still I'm here I'm writing this and I will still endure
I've got to take all that they give, though it seems more and more
Is it because I can take it? I don't want to it's true
I can't believe that this is part of being born a Jew!
What a strange thought that one was, for down the centuries
We Jews we have been ostrasised when trying to be free
It's true enough, I am a Jew, I also am a Man
And in this life I think I lost my wonderful master plan!
Well not quite I will admit, my master plan number one
I can't remember ever having a master plan, not one!
I've always taken it as it comes, what else is there to do?
Whatever the reason, it's how it is for....
This Alien, Wandering Jew!

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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:31 pm

I've fomulated a few impressions about religion that control my beliefs, and therefore my life: Things accepted or proven by science refute everything I learned about creation in Sunday School. Man created God in his own image, and not the other way as we are conditioned to accept. Organized religion is crowd control in the most basic of systems. The Christian Bible, and similar versions devised though belief systems by different names, are anthologies by chosen authors. And those published authors, then as now, serve at behest of the Editors. Weeds and people and lower animals live and die, and eventually become extinct as they are replaced by more adaptable species. And beliefs in parallel universes, or Heaven or Hell or Purgatory, are conveniences for those who so choose to believe them, and those beliefs should be honored by all and rediculed by none. And these are my beliefs.

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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:08 am

Jim Woods wrote:
I've fomulated a few impressions about religion that control my beliefs, and therefore my life: Things accepted or proven by science refute everything I learned about creation in Sunday School. Man created God in his own image, and not the other way as we are conditioned to accept. Organized religion is crowd control in the most basic of systems. The Christian Bible, and similar versions devised though belief systems by different names, are anthologies by chosen authors. And those published authors, then as now, serve at behest of the Editors. Weeds and people and lower animals live and die, and eventually become extinct as they are replaced by more adaptable species. And beliefs in parallel universes, or Heaven or Hell or Purgatory, are conveniences for those who so choose to believe them, and those beliefs should be honored by all and rediculed by none. And these are my beliefs.

Jim Woods
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I would agree man made god in his own image, but in actuality, god doesn't really have an image in the way we think of an image. In fact I believe everything and every event is in the image of god for god and the totality of reality (the universe, in this sense including all paralell cosmoses and realities) are one and the same (for more on my views on this see my Nature of God thread) Man just wanted to make god in his own image because of ego in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:18 pm

I just skimmed most comments and am not responding directly to any. Just to reiterate my position, let me say that I believe in God but not in religion. Religion is man-made. I believe there is but one God - an universal intellingence. I don't believe that this intelligence is in human form. The God I believe in is the same one that Moses prayed to. The same one that Muhammed prayed to. The same one that Jesus prayed to, etc., and the God that most people worship. God is called by various names but it is my belief that it is the same substance or force of energy. All the philosphical forms of worship has caused wars over the centuries. Each dogma praying to this one God to destroy their enemies - enemies being those who don't believe in their particular faith. Not much has changed over the centuries. There is still conflict/strife over the various forms of religious worship and wars continue. It creeps into politics. Politicians spout their support for their religious friends seeking favor and at the same time creating animosity with others.
And so it goes....

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PostSubject: Re: History of Religion(s)   Sun May 03, 2009 6:30 pm

These comments are very interseting. All the above points have value...good questions should have simple, and provable answers.

Abe, why not start with the first question: "What is the purpose of the human race?"
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